Phillip Wylie Show | Emile Fugulin: The Future of Bug Bounty Tools

Emile Fugulin: The Future of Bug Bounty Tools

September 21, 2025 / 28:47/S3 E41 Download MP3

Summary

In this episode of the Phillip Wylie Show, Emile Fugulin, co-founder of Caido, discusses the evolution of cybersecurity tools, his personal journey into hacking, and the importance of community engagement in the bug bounty space. He highlights the performance challenges faced by traditional security tools and how Caido aims to address these issues through innovative design and architecture. Emile also shares insights on the integration of AI in cybersecurity, the learning curve for new users, and the future of automation in the industry.

Takeaways

Emile Fugulin emphasizes the importance of competition in the cybersecurity tool market.
Caido aims to improve performance and usability compared to traditional tools.
The tool is designed to facilitate collaboration between hackers and developers.
Caido's architecture allows for remote deployment, enhancing flexibility for users.
Community engagement is crucial for Caido's development, especially in plugin creation.
The bug bounty community has been a primary focus for Caido's growth and features.
Efficiency in manual testing is a key consideration in Caido's design.
The learning curve for Caido is designed to be less steep than traditional tools.
AI integration is being approached with user control and privacy in mind.
The future of cybersecurity will likely see increased automation, but human intuition remains essential.

Connect with Emile!

https://www.linkedin.com/in/efugulin/

https://caido.io/

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Caido and Emil's Background

03:19 Emil's Hacker Origin Story

06:05 Performance and Usability Challenges in Security Tools

09:35 Caido's Technical Architecture and Community Engagement

12:11 Plugin Development and Community Contributions

14:14 Focus on Bug Bounty Community

15:34 The Role of Automation in Pen Testing

18:05 Learning Curve and Documentation for Caido